allen05073003

我課咗金比GN，獨立媒體真係非常重要
rickywk 發表於 2023-5-1 09:44

香港呢幾個字係禁語黎，小心講野

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marcochl

回覆 36# rfdingo

Ching…AGESA 就係要做呢樣野….
Amd 冇做係已經疏忽左，而事後咁快就搞得掂好明顯唔係咩高難度既野….
呢單野係amd 自己疏忽+板廠大安旨意自把自為既共同成果

rickywk

回覆  rfdingo

Ching…AGESA 就係要做呢樣野….
Amd 冇做係已經疏忽左，而事後咁快就搞得掂好明顯唔係咩 ...
marcochl 發表於 2023-5-1 10:37

Swiss Cheese Model

rfdingo

回覆  rfdingo

Ching…AGESA 就係要做呢樣野….
Amd 冇做係已經疏忽左，而事後咁快就搞得掂好明顯唔係咩 ...
marcochl 發表於 2023-5-1 10:37

個位大哥 引 6樓 gn講技嘉bios reset完load def value 會清唔乾淨 個問顯
"唔單一間板廠出事就係AMD 問題居多"

兩件獨立既事
amd本身就有出指引soc 唔好過1.35 , 出名d既 得1家唔跟偷加電
amd AGESA 唔鎖死但有指引，am4 時都有廠會比玩家超少少, 如果樣樣AGESA hard code 哂，板廠仲有咩 花可以雕

*留意m字廠既公告
"我地既bios一向跟隨指引，同時最新bios都應amd要求 封左x3d可調電功能.....我地確認旗下產品從沒發生 該問題"
Recently, there have been reports of the 7000X3D series CPUs being damaged, which may have been caused by abnormal voltage issues. AMD is currently investigating this issue and working on providing a solution.

Our BIOS always follow AMD's guidance, and our latest BIOS release has disabled the 7000X3D Core over-voltage feature, as requested by AMD.

There has been a report stating:

"As soon as EXPO is enabled, the CPU SOC and CPU VDDIO/MC voltages increase to 1.36-1.4v, sometimes boosting to 1.5V in Windows, causing instant death on the X3D."

We have confirmed that MSI motherboards have not experienced the reported issue of voltage boosting to 1.5v from 1.36-1.4v in Windows.

Dcup

回覆  rfdingo

Ching…AGESA 就係要做呢樣野….
Amd 冇做係已經疏忽左，而事後咁快就搞得掂好明顯唔係咩 ...
marcochl 發表於 2023-5-1 10:37

    AGESA管唔到直接控制，板廠點push係板話事的，唔通agesa話超得就可以嘔凸咩？最終都係板控制的

Dcup

你咪傻,一直都講緊BIOS。 最初個spec 由AMD 交出去,如果粒CPU真係I/O咁脆弱一早就應該由最初version就唔 ...
O人 發表於 2023-5-1 07:11

    BIOS一定唔會係amd寫，amd寫microcode己經足夠

如果佢寫埋成bios點行，咁不如出個公板底板教埋你地做算吧啦

即係賣Engine既車廠點樣賣埋個ECU俾你，除非你無功能姐，有既樣樣都要tune

最後tune爆左你話Engine車廠錯？邊個教你overboost加壓個偈呀？

rickywk

AGESA管唔到直接控制，板廠點push係板話事的，唔通agesa話超得就可以嘔凸咩？最終都係板控制的 ...
Dcup 發表於 2023-5-1 11:30

但我唔明點解Thermal tip point可以撈亂

Dcup

但我唔明點解Thermal tip point可以撈亂
rickywk 發表於 2023-5-1 11:35

牙石佢個set可以知道而不作為都幾西利的

只能講，近十年保護料做得太多太好，好到一個點是廠跟本唔care黎D野

今日出左一個原來會用到黎D保護野既情況，原來佢地己經唔知幾時開始Fail左

如果有心情玩，應該要研究下黎D fail潛在問題係幾時開始

5800x3D好彩無得超，除時當年D牙石都係無保護(用緊)

antlee

1. 原先D AMD guideline未必有考慮X3D的情況 (儘管有出過5800X3D) -> 原先 for non 3D chips嘅 safety margin唔夠用(電壓/溫度 cutoff)
2. 底板D 安全措施失效 - 明顯ASUS init CPU code 00 時 Over Current Protection失效
3. BIOS firmware code bug - Gigabyte 無set好settings...
-> 當然部分問題會番去 AGESA 嗰度, 因為每次AM4/AM5 要先行完 AGESA code才到底板廠BIOS code (MSI TOPPC https://youtu.be/ULZuvpJGzbc?t=600 )