PPLd

你只test 55km就可以
佢頭4xkm行電池
你行55km
benz eq-boost數值都可以好厲害
但係一長途，電池要 ...
madebyp90 發表於 2025-5-14 13:54

    The best thing you can do to Prius Prime or all PHEV is short trips and charge every time.
If you dont charge it, you are just carrying useless batteries which is worse than normal Prius.
I suppose you didnt drive all the 1000km in 1 day no?

PPLd

香港prius4(冇phev)0-100 10.6s
uber ching share平均都係22-24
耗油量（官方數字）        27.0 km/L (歐 ...
madebyp90 發表於 2025-5-14 15:35

    Just curious,
how short is considered as short trip in HK?

javacomhk

得閒去珠海入98咪唔使乞囉，順便飲茶食飯買野，好過響香港抄張$320 遲吓變$400啦！

madebyp90

The best thing you can do to Prius Prime or all PHEV is short trips and charge every time.
If ...
PPLd 發表於 2025-5-14 16:05

    我雪地，一日可以16hr/890km
帶廣-》函館（專登去食一碗拉麵）-〉洞爺-》札幌
平時旅行一日可以3xx-4xx-5xx

madebyp90

Just curious,
how short is considered as short trip in HK?
PPLd 發表於 2025-5-14 16:09

應該討論吓toyota hybird sys
入邊一啲浪費燃油嘅設定

etc 過夜之後完全cold start,就算你想行ev mode(通常唔夠電)
佢都要着偈，急速暖水箱水+偈油+叉電上40%，到工作溫度先off

另外一個係冇開eco冷氣,會因為冷氣恆溫需要熱水,所以做無意義著偈

兩樣嘢share番去短途(15min內），油耗就唔會好睇
長途（30min up)/or 停低食飯再著，唔需要特登warm-up就冇乜分別

prius PHEV有heat pump,成本好貴
但佢可以幫助短途油耗
如果加拿大，外置電力暖車，都可以大幅減少coldstart無意義空轉
制冷有效率過制熱
開冷氣一個鐘只要0.27L/0.41-0.5kwh(EV)
(好多片都有24hr 純油 vs hybrid vs ev)
但係取暖就完全唔止
9:28,-10c之前，heat pump sys下，引擎唔會空轉來取暖


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lai.areon

大星星比人屌得多，依家星期日唔使券都有得減 350-50

PPLd

我雪地，一日可以16hr/890km
帶廣-》函館（專登去食一碗拉麵）-〉洞爺-》札幌
平時旅行一日可以3xx- ...
madebyp90 發表於 2025-5-14 20:44

    I am not familiar with the places you named.
In my opinion, hybrid and electric are not ideal for long highway trips.
You can clearly feel the batteries and motors are dragging down the engine at high speeds.
I believe the clutched system of Honda is trying to solve this.

Btw regarding the Prius Prime test report, study(s) have shown that if a person is not plugging in his Prius Prime he is not only losing money, but also emitting harmful exhaust fumes into the environment.
So if someone is using PP or any similar vehicles, please make sure you charge it.
https://insideevs.com/news/63034 ... g-plugged-in-study/

PPLd

應該討論吓toyota hybird sys
入邊一啲浪費燃油嘅設定

etc 過夜之後完全cold start,就算你想行ev mode( ...
madebyp90 發表於 2025-5-14 21:30

    So I have 1 short trip, 1 medium trip, 1 long trip shared.
I pay a lot of attention to fuel economy so my numbers are usually 50% better than normal person.

I think your observations are based on older gen Toyotas.
Camry would fire up engine immediately to warm up.  The NiMH battery takes long time to recharge and drive up to 70km/h for ~2km range only.
Corolla do not start engine at all if GPS says the battery is enough for trip.  The Li battery only need 1 minute to charge and can drive the car up to 110km/h for ~20+km.
If not enough, then it would fire up to charge battery as it calculate best point to do so.
Besides, you can bypass the engine heat for AC.

P.S.: There are 2 versions of Prius batteries.
They give very different fuel econ numbers in real world.

chpyeung

得閒去珠海入98咪唔使乞囉，順便飲茶食飯買野，好過響香港抄張$320 遲吓變$400啦！ ...
javacomhk 發表於 2025-5-14 19:45

去珠海就入95算啦, 除非係超跑啫.

poonhoiming

大星星比人屌得多，依家星期日唔使券都有得減 350-50
lai.areon 發表於 2025-5-15 01:54

呢排紅卡都成日寄油券，唔使再乞