PPLd

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2024/09/11 12:35


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mo9394 發表於 2024-9-12 12:38

I think it is indeed unfair to compare other countries.
The car market in HK is extremely skewed by tax policy.

If your concern is MONEY ONLY:

Take BMW as an example, a brand new i4 with 286ps under 1-for-1 tax incentive is only $499,900.
You can only buy a 156ps 318iA sedan for a similar price tag of $489,000.

On the other hand, a typical EV battery shall lose about 1% capacity per 10,000km driven.
For most people the reasonable time for battery replacement is roughly 200,000km.
And I was quoted the battery replacement cost is about $104,752.

To compare apple to apple, the maintenance cost + fuel of a BMW Petrol vs Electric after 200,000km?
$104,752 / 200,000km is super super cheap even if electricity cost is taken into consideration.

PPLd

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雖然過去十年汽油的整體需求顯著上升，但油站數目卻僅有4.6%的少量 ...
mo9394 發表於 2024-9-12 17:33

If a person has no charging station nearby, it is more of a stress and trouble to feed your EV than feed your ICEV.

PPLd

但對賣方唻講 要斷鐘收費先至合理
(電費佔成本中份量唔多)
如果泊咗架OBC殘廢嘅車淨係慢叉咁霸住屎坑
按 ...
kanduki 發表於 2024-9-12 12:44

Usually the business agreement in HK is that:
1. Charger station company build the station in car park for free
2. Sell electricity at 2x-3x the cost of CLP.
3. Make money as people use the service.

It is a gamble of install cost vs sales volume in contract years.

PPLd

睇返樓上咪已post咗兩間公司出嚟囉，仲要問


我再post多次，睇到未？
而家到我睇你嘅資料囉喎 ...
billyyau 發表於 2024-9-12 13:34

Charging by Electricity and Charging by Time are 2 of the most common charging schemes around the world.
I have also seen flat rate charging (All You Can Eat per day) in some countries.

However if your charging gun is static rated to say 7kW, then the amount of electricity you eject out is fixed to 7kWh.
So the 2 charging methods are fundamentally the same thing.

billyyau

可以睇番 2017 的報告



P.07-P.08

雖然過去十年汽油的整體需求顯著上升，但油站數目卻僅有4.6%的少量 ...
mo9394 發表於 2024-9-12 17:33

我只係話油站會愈來愈少，冇話過今時今日搵油站困難，不過十年八年後就難講。

油站改充電站我個人覺得可大大改變電動車主嘅充電習慣，因為要停車場錢關係，好多電動車車主會留返低電量先一次過先充電。
當油站有快充而又以逐度電收費的話，基本上路過油站借個廁所，五至十分鐘就可以足夠cover返當日所用的電量，用作補給用途就係咁解，唔係話佢冇實際作用。

billyyau

Charging by Electricity and Charging by Time are 2 of the most common charging schemes around the  ...
PPLd 發表於 2024-9-12 18:08

理論上，你嘅說法係啱。
但現實上，用時間收費就算提供足電力都係會有落差。
例如泊一個鐘，扣出車入車時間，實際充電時間可能只有46分鐘，但收費就會收足一個鐘頭嘅錢。

vagrantno13

回覆 136# billyyau

渣電動車省引擎/波箱的維修成本, 還有引擎汽油、機油、波箱油及電池水, 還計教停車場收費. 你還是坐公交工具吧

billyyau

回覆  billyyau

渣電動車省引擎/波箱的維修成本, 還有引擎汽油、機油、波箱油及電池水, 還計教停車場收費 ...
vagrantno13 發表於 2024-9-12 18:56

閱讀理解能力障礙？

vagrantno13

回覆 138# billyyau

渣車停車場的成本有限錢

billyyau

回覆  billyyau

渣車停車場的成本有限錢
vagrantno13 發表於 2024-9-12 19:54

幾時有講過停車場錢？