回復 56# kutar_pika


字幕組壓片技術好過電視台班人........... 電視台有設備但未有發揮最大功效...........
字幕組壓低碼動畫遠勝電視台D高碼動畫.........

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回復 57# cytam

AGREE !! 家下D 片有幾何全靜態畫面 , 寜願要720P都唔要1080I............已經行數碼都仲有交錯片.....浪費晒

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回復 57# cytam

h264係未最大玩16x16一block壓縮?

根本h264唔玩progressive就注定失真。

一早定標準時遷就電腦行720p30或1080p30點都好過遷就大牛龜1080i50。

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為咗令之前段吹水加多少少根據,我查咗少少資料如下:

1. 720p vs 1080i vs 1080p
http://www.vcl.fer.hr/papers_pdf/Comparison%20of%20HDTV%20Formats%20Using%20Objective%20Video%20Quality%20Measures.pdf

In this paper we compared several video quality measures with subjective measure. Firstly, subjective results of different HDTV formats show that progressive scanning should be considered rather than interlaced for all future HDTV emissions


2.
http://tech.ebu.ch/docs/events/ibc06/presentations/ebu_ibc06_hdtv1_hand-out.pdf
佢話總體嚟講,同一bitrate底下,
"720p/50 is better than 1080i/25"
"1080p/50 is better than 1080i/25"
"1080p/50 can be better than 720p/50"

3.
http://tech.ebu.ch/docs/techreports/tr005.pdf

The tests revealed that at the same distribution bitrate the 720p/50 format images were more appreciated by the viewers than the 1080i/25 format images. EBU Recommendation R124 relates to these tests. In addition the tests revealed that progressive source images can be more efficiently digitally compressed (encoded) than interlaced source images.


4.
http://cat.inist.fr/?aModele=afficheN&cpsidt=23120455
得個 abstract 睇,
對於簡單 - OK - 複雜畫面嚟講
720p50 需要 2M - 5M - 8M
1080i25 需要 3M - 8M - 11M

當然,你可以話,上面啲資料都好耐下,可能過時。呢個都啱。個問題係你唔能假設而家啲encoder,喺1080i25就突飛猛進,720p就了無寸進。既然講緊嘅係明珠台呢類bitrate處理HD掹掹緊嘅情況,睇嚟720P唔係真係咁唔值得考慮(電視台本身唔考慮一回事,起碼720p50寫咗喺spec度,唔似得1080p都只能喺發夢時出現)。話時話,將翡翠台升做720P咪可以提高翡翠台嘅質素之餘,又可以畀「高清翡翠台」個名繼續名正言順囉

搵相關資料時見到呢段:
http://www.digitalhome.ca/forum/showthread.php?s=936e6633878468d27740b5e9a54c98b8&t=144794
CBC HD Switches To 720p From 1080i
原來都有 1080i 轉去 720p 嘅例子,不過我唔熟悉廣播業,唔知佢地真正原因係咩啦。

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回復  kutar_pika


字幕組壓片技術好過電視台班人........... 電視台有設備但未有發揮最大功效.......... ...
xyz# 發表於 2012-11-26 21:18


又唔可以咁講嘅,情況唔同,人哋可以用十粒鐘壓一條30分鐘嘅片,電視台講嘅係realtime,唔通十點鐘先播六點半新聞咩,冇得咁比較

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回復 65# cytam

直播就無計姐, 現時D節目大多都唔係直播.........唔改善這點俾3D都無用

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本帖最後由 kutar_pika 於 2012-11-27 00:26 編輯
搵相關資料時見到呢段:
http://www.digitalhome.ca/forum/ ... 4c98b8&t=144794
CBC HD Switches To 720p From 1080i
原來都有 1080i 轉去 720p 嘅例子,不過我唔熟悉廣播業,唔知佢地真正原因係咩啦。
cytam 發表於 2012-11-26 22:25

CBC當年係因為主打NHL,你知啦,體育直播最忌就係起格同拖畫面,而且當時加拿大好多cable公司既高清解碼器都只係行720p,味借D意博D人唔覺(因有統計指加拿大得7%既人用天線收台)。結果就犧牲左果班用天線收1080i既高清發燒友

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又唔可以咁講嘅,情況唔同,人哋可以用十粒鐘壓一條30分鐘嘅片,電視台講嘅係realtime,唔通十點鐘先播 ...
cytam 發表於 2012-11-26 22:28


而且網上D片應該用 Variable bitrate 吧,
但大氣電波每秒得20Mb就得20Mb,無得咁玩

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720p肯定好過1080i啦…
今時今日仲interlaced…

前面猛話iNews唔清兼起格,
但又冇睇倒的新聞片段根本本身就已經係低清,
佢唔用高清機拍新聞,佢轉高清都冇意思架喎
仲話新聞檔案,新聞檔案好明顯係用舊聞剪出黎,你想佢點高清姐?

Pearl轉左高清係有眼見真係清左,起格係有,但唔多。
轉左一定好過唔轉
720x576仲要係i,緊係唔起格啦,但你放到咁大睇咁低清你都接受倒既?
唔好話HD Pearl會起格,HD Jade個畫面多野郁咪一樣起。
不如HD Jade都轉返720x576i,13M包唔起格,大家實鍾意!
順便改名做超清無格翡翠台

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但又冇睇倒的新聞片段根本本身就已經係低清,
佢唔用高清機拍新聞,佢轉高清都冇意思架喎
minazuki 發表於 2012-11-27 18:20


2013 年新聞部會全高清,唔會冇意思
所有剩餘既標清製作都會轉高清

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