原帖由 WHO 於 2008-8-31 02:32 發表

Well, a little bit too far la.     I am no hifi fans.  I only treat that mini DAC as an accessory for 901.  
BTW, did you send me email today?  I only received one you send late last nite.

WHO hing, I actually recieved your reply which is EXCELLENT. But I spent several hours troubleshooting my desktop and found 34 trojans! It's from QQ! So I haven't reply yet.

I think you want to know the universe before choosing which planet to land ma (do you know what I mean ) Yes, I agree and think that soundrigor or similar thingy will have great improvement already. As I said, I am using MD as my DAC for my desktop and feel satsified

Did you go to that MK shop? It's like a supermarket with many headphone amps free for testing, which is nice You can upgrade your headphone there as well

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要平玩,我覺醒nuforce好唔抵,草草看了一會spec和圖片
只不過等於一張用BB pcm2706的sound卡加上小class d amp
(其實一樣的amp台灣做了好久,各家都可自行印上自己品牌的芯片,我都有diy過)

而國內一般做法,只會用BB pcm2706的USB->SPDIF部份
然後加上一個獨立解碼芯片,再經由op放大輸出

nuforce的DAC字眼有丁點誤導成份,聲音是pcm2706處理輸出,好極有個普。

最平玩法我覺得可以這樣,而且可以好好聲!!
USB轉同軸器件(PCM2706芯片) RMB120左右,有d設計還會加上analog輸出,即是你們所說的RCA紅白頭
1793或1543DAC, RMB150左右
10w 那型號的T-amp,可接喇叭或直推耳機 RMB120,
國內大把設計賣家,聲音不少人都說像膽機,國外不少討論,
而我會以物超所值形容,因為每個人聽感不同
這樣已經等於nuforce
而單純以聲音訊源轉換計,肯定比nuforce只單用2706好得多
而且還可換不同DAC

除非錢多、要靚,聲音次要
要不2k買那個產品我會覺很好唔抵

但它整合度確是高、外觀也不錯

[ 本帖最後由 imagine 於 2008-9-1 06:59 編輯 ]

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原帖由 WHO 於 2008-8-31 20:02 發表

woooo, thank you for not sending my reply then.  

Hifi's universe is too huge la.  
I do have some concern on the product quality when I read imagine兄's comment.  However, I failed to google mo ...


WHo hing, It seems you want to set your iriver and eeepc in a duel!

I answered the easier question first: (1) select songs you are very familar with. Doing so helps you judge differences since you're familiar with the 'soundscape' of those songs; (2) select some songs which match your taste - strong bass? complicated arrangement? Violin? Female voices? Piano Concerto? Since you test things with the music you love most, it helps testing. (3) select some 'extreme' songs, which have high dynamic range. Get some complicated classical or rock music - even if you dun particularly like. Email me if you need any samples of this kind!

Yes, foobar200 can use RAM play. Go to "Preference --> Advanced --> Playback --> Full file Buffering up to". Imagine one song is at most 200MB (some piece is longer), it's 200*`1024kb. Enter this no. there. But to use this function fully, you need to use WAVE (there's another player called cplay, which can do full RAM play for FLAC, but I dun want to discuss it for now since it has a very inconvenient interface.  For testing, foobar200i is OK!)

There's one thing I mentioned very long ago - ASIO4ALL. This is used to set up sth bypassing the windows internal sound system. I'll email you reference to this, but for now I think you can rip your songs!  

But I think you may borrow more high-class headphones there to do the test Otherwise not fair to eeepc!

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其實有冇d可以usb出digital signal, 由amp解碼嘅野呢.  用DAC變左要試DAC的聲啱唔啱口味???

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原帖由 jcls 於 2008-9-1 12:22 發表
其實有冇d可以usb出digital signal, 由amp解碼嘅野呢.  用DAC變左要試DAC的聲啱唔啱口味???


Yes, you can. But I think you have to buy some new generation of amplifiers. There are at least 2 options here:
(1) USB Headphone amp (e.g.soundrigor) - use headphones / output jacks to connect to your active speakers. It has internal DAC inside.
(2) Amp with USB input (e.g. NuForce Icons) - Some new products belong to this category. Pioneer A-A9-J f seems to be another choice. There should be more, google it by the following words: "amp, "internal dac", usb' ... The price range in this category may be great ...
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原帖由 WHO 於 2008-9-1 23:58 發表
正話係敢以裝一裝 foobar 落 desktop (ALTEC 2.1入門speaker) 試下, 我乜都未set, play d 192kbps 嘅 mp3, 發覺佢d 聲已經清晰過 Winamp 好多.  
今云真係賺突.  

Really, I haven't used WinAmp. But I heard there're differences. Congratulations. There're some settings about Foobar200. Using them (including disabling many of them) may produce better sound. Maybe you this super-googler have already find this info ...

Just found two pics for sharing
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