標題: 微軟：Windows Phone 7完全不兼容Windows Mobile 6.x應用程序 [打印本頁]

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作者: busyman    時間: 2010-3-5 12:11     標題: 微軟：Windows Phone 7完全不兼容Windows Mobile 6.x應用程序

微軟：Windows Phone 7完全不兼容Windows Mobile 6.x應用程序

http://news.mydrivers.com/1/157/157886.htm

關於微軟將徹底不顧Windows Phone 7與現有Windows Mobile系統的兼容性問題的傳言已經證實為真，微軟Windows Phone應用程序平台與開發者體驗合作團隊項目主管Charlie Kindel在官方博客中承認，Windows Mobile應用程序不能在Windows Phone 7手機上運行。

“為了保證迄今為止你在演示中所見到的Windows Phone 7系列的完美用戶體驗，我們必須打破過去版本的束縛。為了發布一種開發人員期望的開發者平台，我們已經更改了手機應用程序的編寫方式。”

“它所帶來的後果之一就是，之前的Windows Moible應用程序無法在Windows Phone 7系列上運行。”

之前微軟曾表示，由於Windows Phone7對硬件規格的要求十分嚴格，因此現有的Windows Mobile 6.x手機無法將系統升級至Windows Phone 7，包括HTC發布不久的堪稱最高端WM手機的HD2。如今，Windows Mobile 6.x的應用程序也無法在WP7上運行，看來微軟真是徹底切斷了WM6與WP7的關聯。

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作者: busyman    時間: 2010-3-5 12:53

http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/ ... pment-ahead-of-gdc/

Microsoft talks Windows Phone 7 Series development ahead of GDC: Silverlight, XNA, and no backward compatibility

Microsoft is keen on unveiling the meat of its developer story around Windows Phone 7 Series at MIX10 in less than two weeks, but with GDC coming up next week, they're figuring that now is a good time to start dropping hints -- they'll want to be capturing the collective imagination of the gaming industry, after all, what with that Xbox Live integration they've got going on. To that end, Charlie Kindel of WinPho's developer experience team has outed a few key items at a reception in San Francisco this evening.

The major points are that Silverlight, XNA, and .NET will figure prominently into the developer story -- not a surprise considering that Microsoft is heavily invested in both, gaming is central to the Windows Phone 7 Series story, XNA is a big deal on Zune HD already, and this all lines up with what we'd heard in the past. In fact, Kindel boldly proclaims that "If you are Silverlight or XNA developer today you're gonna be really happy." On the flipside, it's a bit ironic considering that Silverlight spends much of its existence going head-to-head with Flash, and all indications are that we won't see Flash support on 7 at initial availability (though it's sounding like a lock post-launch).

One final note at today's event is that Microsoft has now officially confirmed for the first time that 7 represents a clean break from Windows Mobile as we know it today; existing apps won't be compatible. Though that's likely to be a pain for existing owners with specialized apps who are looking to stay in the Microsoft ecosystem, Windows Phone 7 Series itself is a very different beast than the operating system it replaces -- it feels different, seeks a different demographic, and symbolically represents a very important clean-slate departure for a company that had lost its way in the mobile space. The bright side for the 6.5 faithful, we suppose, is that Kindel closes by saying that they "will continue to work with our partners to deliver new devices based on Windows Mobile 6.5 and will support those products for many years to come" -- a message Microsoft has been echoing recently.

We expect to hear much, much more on this at MIX -- and we might hear a few more tidbits at GDC as well -- but in the meantime, there's a developer Q&A going down on Twitter around 9:00PM ET (check the #wp7dev tag) where we could get some details. Stay tuned.

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作者: siko    時間: 2010-3-5 16:58

洗底行動, 睇下xda班高手攪唔攪得掂, 不過話分兩頭, 現存WM6.5既software都叫夠用, 我諗依家既windows phone最少都仲有兩年product life

WM7唔係唔好, 但如果又係要超班hardware config先行得順, 最後都只會失敗收埸, 睇下MS做唔做到套好戲出黎

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作者: musicshop168    時間: 2010-3-5 22:46




M$ 都有 D 壓力... 因為有比較...
要做到好似 Android 咁順先得

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作者: wa468402    時間: 2010-3-6 00:20

豪賭一鋪,要成功,不但MS要自己的軟件寫得好,還要得到APP的支持,但以ms一向的態度,那是不易.

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作者: David Kirk    時間: 2010-3-6 14:54

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作者: kenlau    時間: 2010-3-6 15:24

咁佢同重新再出過PPC 無分別ge wo...
不過都好ge...姐係佢今次一次定生死...佢實好努力咁去搞好佢
如果價錢ok ge wa...我依個用緊wm 6.5 ge 人實再支持佢je(如果吾係....android 算lo)

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作者: wyhpower    時間: 2010-3-6 15:45

看來m$要重新搶過market share...

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作者: wa468402    時間: 2010-3-7 01:40

我覺得他不向下兼容賭注太大,因為這樣初期wm7一定不會有太軟件可選,到了軟件多了,a和i機已不知發展到層次.

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作者: adrianmak    時間: 2010-3-7 06:58

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作者: lken001    時間: 2010-3-7 09:32

最好快d有清晰的答案.

Offical web -> No upgrade from wm6.5 to 7. or etc

增加我信心用android phone...

雖然wm phone已經陪伴我4 /5年~ d software 完全用唔番，反正要搵過d software，用下其他OS law.

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作者: wa468402    時間: 2010-3-7 09:59

大家對HD2可以上WM7死心,出新OS真的為改良手機嗎?只不過製造新商機,如果你們不用換手機,他們怎會賺錢.或XDA到時會

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作者: singleup    時間: 2010-3-8 10:00

真係#%*^$
為何不可以向下兼容d software呀....
好同意 lken001 既話, 如果要等/花時間搵software, 不如轉會.....

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作者: 008325    時間: 2010-3-8 10:46




    哈哈...而家 iPhone 2G , 3年前既機而家都仲有 Update , WinMo ? 3個月既 support 都唔知仲有冇

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作者: siko    時間: 2010-3-8 16:13

向下兼容未必係好事, 可以本身個kernel都做得唔好, 先要重頭黎過. 對software developer都未必衰得晒, 好睇個SDK做得好唔好, 亦都可以藉轉platform賺多user upgrade charge

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作者: aswdv    時間: 2010-3-8 16:51



咁即係話WM 個 kernel唔好, 所以先要砍掉重練?

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作者: siko    時間: 2010-3-9 11:30


我唔係XDA班神人, 無真係對WM好深入研究, 不過可以用ANDROID搵一個例子做比較:

我朋友用hero+原生rom, 我用612c+ kexy wm6.5 21888
係一般情況下, 係個menu禁黎禁去, 好明顯我個fd部hero係反應快, 到我同佢一齊load網頁, 佢亦都快同順過我(我用pocket ie). 但當我轉用opera mobile 10 beta, 其實個差距已經收窄左好多.

所以我覺得, 只要ms肯花多D時間去做, wm一定會做到android或者iphone既速度同表現, 加上推倒重來而唔係做fine tune, 應該好多缺點/問題都可以從根本解決, 咁伸延去到application layer上既表現都一定會提昇

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作者: aswdv    時間: 2010-3-9 12:15

本帖最後由 aswdv 於 2010-3-9 12:20 編輯


我都同意, 只係唔明白點解M$咁多年都可以唔做野, 唔去好好地攪好WM, 最後只靠XDA, HTC, 等去改良.
  M$ WM team 個班人咁多年蒞都好似白支人工.

其實今次要砍掉重練, 唔知係唔係成班WM team已經俾人燉冬菇, M$ 既Smartphone發展交晒比Zune 個team 人, 所以佢地無乜興趣support 舊WM 既 program. 而唔係只係技術上無可能.

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作者: adrianmak    時間: 2010-3-9 12:48

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作者: 金比    時間: 2010-3-9 13:26

去到6.5都仲係6.5k色
只係呢一點已經有排俾人話

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作者: siko    時間: 2010-3-9 15:24

正如樓上所講, UI都係一個要考慮既因數, 所以唔可以向下兼容唔緊要, 最重要係比左錢既有得平價upgrade. 至於個mon幾多色, 對我黎講我又唔覺得好重要, 始終我覺得聽歌睇片好晒電, 如果一直都改善唔到耗電量高既問題, 我零願攞多部機, 因為暫時手中呢部都係"電話"

不過development team既問題我就唔會咁睇, MS都有佢自己既模式:
DOS>fine tune>win3.1>推倒重來>win95
win95>fine tune>win 98>推倒重來>win2k
win2k>fine tune>winxp>推倒重來>vista/win7
個比喻未必100%岩晒啦, 但係都差唔多

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作者: bchiu    時間: 2010-3-9 15:52

It's great. The existing WM OS is just too creepy.

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作者: mouseman    時間: 2010-3-9 17:45

All Windows had a level of compatibility of the elder version
but this time

just like Palm, you will lose tons of 3rd party applications suddenly, which means die finally

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作者: Phil_123    時間: 2010-3-9 21:44

WebOS failed because there is absolutely nothing to back the ecosystem up. The ease of development is overhyped and is crippled by the slow release of SDKs. And it is the only current smartphone OS that cannot reach global markets worldwide - WebOS is currently used only on devices not available internationally.

Windows Phone 7, on the other hand, have Windows Live and Xbox Live services backing it up, and Silverlight and .NET developers already know how to develop applications for the OS with little modifications.

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作者: aswdv    時間: 2010-3-9 22:03

本帖最後由 aswdv 於 2010-3-9 22:25 編輯


Win2k 應該源自WinNT, 所以個path應該有兩個,
DOS->Win31->Win95/98/ME
WinNT->Win2K->XP->Vista->Win7

Backward compatibility 一路都有, 就算Win7都可run WinXP program, 甚至某程度的DOS program.
總之希望M$今次做返場好戲, 攪得WP7好好地, 咁大家可以多一個選擇

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作者: killuazaoldyeck    時間: 2010-3-10 22:24

重點問題是，就要看新系統個kernel是不是純.Net化……
因為甚至在XBOX360，個kernel都還有WinAPI的subset……(.Net的底層還是需要Win32支撐)
理論上而言，只要能補齊完整的Win32 subsystem，Backward compatibility是可以達到的。

這點也是未來Desktop system所面對的挑戰。

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作者: adrianmak    時間: 2010-3-11 09:18

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作者: shodanng    時間: 2010-3-11 12:48


Sometimes for a OS 推倒重來 is a good decision,
there is no more limit to design a new OS.

A more suitable words for "推倒重來" is "Redefine".

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作者: itsd    時間: 2010-3-11 13:55

Good luck to M$.

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作者: tsanon    時間: 2010-3-15 17:51

自殺式行為......