標題: [iMac] 都唔明點解d人話iMac貴? [打印本頁]

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作者: osxhunter    時間: 2013-3-1 10:25     標題: 都唔明點解d人話iMac貴?

本帖最後由 osxhunter 於 2013-3-1 10:26 編輯

如果你要砌一部差不多spec的windows機都係差唔多價錢la
中文繁體版WINDOWS 8 64Bit (OEM)        HK$ 979
Intel Core i5-3330 Ivy Bridge (3GHz, 6M Cache, LGA 1155) CPU BOX 盒裝        HK$ 1383
GIGABYTE GA-H77N-WIFI H77,DDR3,LGA 1155,USB3.0,SATA3 6Gb/s,Mini-ITX M/B        HK$ 790
Kingston DDR3 1600MHz 4GB Ram KVR16N11/4        HK$ 200 x2
GIGABYTE技嘉 GV-N640OC-2GI GT640 PCI-E 2GB DDR3 顯示卡        HK$ 710
WD Blue WD10EZEX 1TB SATA3 6Gb/s /64MB HDD        HK$ 492
ANTEC NE400C-BR NeoEco 400W 80Plus Bronze 火牛        HK$ 388
DELL 22" UltraSharp U2212HM LED Monitor (16:9,2000000:1,8ms,VGA,DVI,DP,USB) -- IPS Panel        HK$ 1450
Creative SBS A40 Speaker 桌面USB音箱        HK$ 88
Microsoft LifeCam VX-3000 Camera (USB) 銀黑        HK$ 399
Apple Wireless Keyboard    HK$ 518
Apple Magic Mouse    HK$ 518
機箱    HK$ 1000 (都可能冇iMac禁靚)
Total HK$ 9115

21.5吋 iMac    HK$ 9888
相差 HK$ 773
當用來買個design + 砌機費都差不多了

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作者: kazami00    時間: 2013-3-1 10:36

Imac design 真係靚， 又簡約，正
Spec
Cpu： 2.7GHz quad-core Intel Core i5 processor with 6MB L3 cache
Ram： 8GB (two 4GB) of 1600MHz DDR3
Mon： 21.5-inch (diagonal) LED-backlit display with IPS
GPU： NVIDIA GeForce GT 640M graphics with 512MB of GDDR5
Hdd： 1TB (5400-rpm) hard drive
Others： wifi + bluetooth， Apple wireless kb， magic mouse

HK$9888

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作者: pooh24680    時間: 2013-3-1 10:47

apple 係貴左
1 配件
2 軟件 (包括 OS)

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作者: mdws2002    時間: 2013-3-1 10:57



Microsoft LifeCam VX-3000 Camera (USB) 銀黑        HK$ 399
Apple Wireless Keyboard    HK$ 518
Apple Magic Mouse    HK$ 518
機箱    HK$ 1000 (都可能冇iMac禁靚)

Total︰$2,435

替代品︰
USB Web Cam HK$100
RAPOO Wireless Keyboard & Mouse HK$150
Coolermaster機箱 HK$300
Total: $550

就單以呢個替代品嚟計，差價已係HK$1,885，已經足夠買一部唔包Windows嘅文書機。

當然，替代品嘅質量或設計，或許就唔及Apple啦。
咸魚青菜，各有所好。有人要用千幾二千嘅機械Keyboard，有人用黃金地庫，十零蚊Keyboard。

再者，Design……，係咪個個人都覺得值同識欣賞先……

千零二千蚊，對於某啲人嚟講，出一次街都唔見咗啦；但對於某啲人嚟講，已經夠買好多餐餸……

所以，iMac貴唔貴，都係睇對咩人嚟講嘅啫，用得著，又識得欣賞個design，咪唔貴囉。

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作者: osxhunter    時間: 2013-3-1 11:07



感起碼我覺得iMac個cp值唔低, 與windows相差不大

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作者: 6seven    時間: 2013-3-1 11:19

如果大家都只係開機上網用途,買部andriod mon. 最化算.

買得Mac 都係因為用佢 OS, 不會同砌機(windows)比較.

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作者: mdws2002    時間: 2013-3-1 11:26



可是現實中，又有好多人買完部iMac返嚟，又要裝返個老翻Windows落去行Windows……
嗰次幫人Set部imac個Windows，差啲唔識用啲Hot Key

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作者: plc1222    時間: 2013-3-1 11:39

岩岩收到部imac27
好正

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作者: 6seven    時間: 2013-3-1 11:47




有次自己部2012 air 上windows 7, 上完開win唔夠15min, 即時還原; mac 機上windows 係三輸,mac hardware 輸,windows OS 又輸,用果個都輸埋,感覺兩邊都就得好辛苦,用果個受罪.

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作者: 044003    時間: 2013-3-1 12:19




    如果講正版
應該計漏左office, ilife, etc 的替代品
123456

同埋
找唔到cpu係2.7GHz咁低
ram係1066
hdd可以轉green
底板可以轉H61
火牛250W就夠
機箱用gtr山寨

123456

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作者: Kundera    時間: 2013-3-2 01:58




You find $158 for a OS with 5 licences expensive?
Have you check the retail price of a Windows licence?

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作者: hihihi123hk    時間: 2013-3-2 02:09



佢地用開  開心版 食米唔知米貴

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作者: Kundera    時間: 2013-3-2 02:15

本帖最後由 Kundera 於 2013-3-2 02:20 編輯



They can do the same on Macs, or shut up and install OSX on PC
it doesn't even require a key or boot loader for activation

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作者: 雲一0一    時間: 2013-3-2 02:22

本帖最後由 雲一0一 於 2013-3-2 02:24 編輯

GT 640M≠GT 640
搵部Notebook+Monitor+Mouse+Keyboard黎比先岩

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作者: neofung    時間: 2013-3-2 04:13

mac軟件超值，但硬係好多時都幾頭痛。
好似imac，其實唔算貴，但得glossy mon，點用黎執相？
都係要駁外置mon的話，macmini好過啦，但得intel gpu。。。。
新imac好似無辦法自己換hd同ssd，fusion drive同ssd版本都唔抵買，
但用黎做野的話，起碼都會轉fusion drive。。。其實都幾雞肋。。。

普通hd版本imac係好平，但其實都幾慢，不過外型一樣咁靚囉 XD

又因為新imac自己應該拆唔到，所以一定會買apple care，計落一d都唔平

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作者: neofung    時間: 2013-3-2 04:26

本帖最後由 neofung 於 2013-3-2 04:30 編輯

溫馨提示：
最平版本imac hd，係5400轉，
好難用砌機，甚至其他廠機同佢比較

另外，20.5"版本，好似話要拆機先換到RAM，
係的話，打爆16G + fusion drive + apple card，睇下幾多錢

砌機的話，底版通常都有3年保，hd/ssd 3-5年，牛3-7年，
display card 2-3年，ram好多都有終身保，點比呢？ XD

如果部imac用黎搵食，一定要有後備機。。。因為壞機一定要畀廠整
都係唔可以同砌機比囉 XD

mon的話，2k以下，無乜可能8bit panel，imac好似係8bit panel。。。
所以，唔可以好似樓主咁樣比較囉

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作者: neofung    時間: 2013-3-2 04:32


呢d先叫生活態度麻

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作者: ivanlc100    時間: 2013-3-2 11:02

其實都唔應該去比....各有各的要求....買部機返來做的野都唔同啦...只要自己買返來又用得着...咁先值...買返來用唔到...咁平貴都係假..

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作者: dontcare    時間: 2013-3-2 11:47

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作者: ten123456789    時間: 2013-3-2 12:04

其實我上次 i5+650TI都係四千五左右
加個LG IPS 21.5吋 一千多d

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作者: plc1222    時間: 2013-3-2 14:40

其實imac/macbookpro/macmini係廠機黎
係比較都應該用番pc廠機既workstation或一體機黎比
用砌機黎比較
傻的嗎

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作者: sony_vaio    時間: 2013-3-2 15:03

其實我唔覺IMAC貴
作為一部DESKTOP機
只係佢一體化得太徹底
如果有咩事無保養就係咁先

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作者: neofung    時間: 2013-3-2 15:07

你當imac desktop replacement好了，入面同macmini一樣，跟本係notebook料黎。

imac同macmini一樣stand by超慳電。
desktop牛的話，唔斷電，用15-25w電，長期唔息都幾襟計。。。

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作者: ccu    時間: 2013-3-2 23:38

貴的意思唔係指相同spec貴過pc, 而係指入場門檻高呀樓主

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作者: a39g99    時間: 2013-3-3 00:17


其實C兄套野根本亂來...你咁用砌成皮野一部電腦但咁既料。
講返同價位係埋真係買imac抵，之前玩xcode入左部imac,我買果陣正係覺佢送隻magic mouse同隻keyboard好,但老實講,你送我只係覺一種安慰而且,感覺上平左一千。

如果我玩i7,入場費根本完全唔同。玩埋SSD根本就明屈你,買佢隻跟機SSD,我都可以係PC組多隻RIAD 0
mac os除左軟件平,個store整得好,我搵唔到有咩好處。
其實我主要工作係處理影片，imca如果要部處理到4k既影片。
我估mac pro應該夠我買多一兩部,算我部pc行E5八核既話。
再講,imac令唔令我就覺見人見志啦,身邊見唔少人買部imac都係覺令,同貴,係身份既象徵。
我覺得imac除了左係工作要求,整圖果種。同PC比，硬件既根本係硬傷。
如果你識讀art既人,有幾多為左買部imac就來乞米咁樣,再睇睇佢付出既錢同佢實際砌機就知。

注:我無話imac唔好，我只係想證明,mac同價位根本同PC無得比而且。
我唔明點解樓主可以曲線到同價格,PC得MAC有得比。
其實MAC由佢CPU唔係由自主開發,轉左用intel開始佢已經明顯唔係優先。
有邊個唔知佢當年用自家CPU幾把炮,當年唔少果粉咪係度串PC,呢家咪又係老實用緊intel。
呢家真係想叫返當年果班果粉上來睇下又講咩。
雖然我自己都用好多apple野,iphone,ipad,ipod。
但係我覺得除左移動平台外,apple又真係幾貴。
因為佢唔似iphone, A6 CPU,A15架構 - 最頂CPU,我買 [同價位佢跑分仲高過S III]
ipad - 因為A6X又係A15,市場最top ,加上系統優化好,我買 [同價位之下,正係佢個MON又係市場最top]
ipod nano,跑步聽歌,同類似既產品無咩其他,ok 我買。

但係imac
我整片既程式PC都有,imac都有相關程式。
但係硬件可以話硬傷我身家...
如果蘋果imac真係咁穩定同好。你唸下點解炒股既人唔用mac os,再配埋個成8000銀既顯示屏,組返幾個呀。
都係個句,各人有各人所好。
我只係陳述事實,同價位imac同PC無得比。
如果樓主堅持話有得比,我只好列張list同你慢慢數。

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作者: Kundera    時間: 2013-3-3 00:37



If someone need a E5, they won't DIY on their own

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作者: leung1610    時間: 2013-3-3 02:34

IMAC唔係用NOTEBOOK料咩?
你用砌機黎比,係咪用錯左例子?

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作者: 百式mkII    時間: 2013-3-3 11:52

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作者: melodyayaka    時間: 2013-3-3 17:53



iMac 個 Design 點 DIY .....

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作者: chujai    時間: 2013-3-3 17:59

根本就係~

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作者: s    時間: 2013-3-3 18:03

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作者: s    時間: 2013-3-3 18:07

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作者: neofung    時間: 2013-3-3 18:34

本帖最後由 neofung 於 2013-3-3 18:35 編輯

回復 31# s
studio用cinema display應該唔會因為效果好，多數因為外觀好睇d多客buy掛。。。。

真係要準，ati/amd 10bit 繪圖卡 + 10bit mon，暫時mac platfrom無呢樣野囉。

執相mac mon一定無咁好，同eizo/nec比的話，但好多時包裝更加緊要 XD

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作者: iGamers.org    時間: 2013-3-3 19:02

本帖最後由 iGamers.org 於 2013-3-3 19:05 編輯

imac offers good speed (which i'm pretty sure is fast enough for ANY task a regular person needs), good design that blends into any environment (unlike regular PCs), and an easy-to-learn OS. it's made for rich families and kids.

imac is NOT a powerhorse.. why would you ever need raid arrays and ssds on a family computer?

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作者: Kundera    時間: 2013-3-3 21:07

本帖最後由 Kundera 於 2013-3-3 21:09 編輯


Here is another story about 'accuracy'
Mac delivers a rather consistent display colour regardless the models, years, or whatever it is a Samsung, LG, Sharp, TN or IPS panel. That's why studios and printers find it reliable because every Mac in their client or contractors' office will renders almost same red as they seen in their own studio, even though no one had their monitor calibrated.

But Samsung, LG, Sharp or Dell themselves cannot made it. The RGB red is never alike in different models and years by default setting. The worst thing is that the hue changes according to brightness, or stupid 'desktop vs game vs cinema' profile.

Meanwhile, 10bit is meaningful only when it is implemented throughout all the computers you are collaborating with are properly calibrated and synchronised (both hardware and software level). That requires big money and great effort...

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作者: sasassa    時間: 2013-3-5 21:47

差唔多spec 既window 一定平過mac

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作者: ss310251    時間: 2013-3-9 12:08

你要正版已win ...

用E兩個都食你唔少$
Apple Wireless Keyboard    HK$ 518
Apple Magic Mouse    HK$ 518

唔睇機箱
機箱    HK$ 1000  可減

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作者: GEISS    時間: 2013-3-9 12:41

唔喜歡既，點都會搵到借口！

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作者: hihihi123hk    時間: 2013-3-9 13:52

本帖最後由 hihihi123hk 於 2013-3-9 13:54 編輯


認同， MBA 個MON 又靚（IPS），KEYBOARD 都算好禁，TOUCHPAD 又多FUNCTION （仲要係玻璃）

同款 PC ULTRABOOK 真係   

唔係大學機 跟本買唔茖手....

朋友 買左大學機 ACER 果部 7xxx -> 5xxx ,  TFT mon 13.3"  x 1366 * 768 , 膠TOUCHPAD， HDD

相反IMAC，

其實 我覺得 係賣 DESIGN 多啲，成套用 的話真係勁慳位 ， 一個電源線 全屋游走

（內置WIFI ／SPEAKER／MIC， BT KEYBOARD／MOUSE， 機連MON）

新一代仲 THIN 左

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作者: nakamura    時間: 2013-3-9 14:12


imac/MBPR 入面任何一件build-in device 瓜左你就有排煩

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作者: polarhei    時間: 2013-3-9 14:19

Mac的價值在軟體上。我自己做類似的東西而已。易手也不便宜

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作者: hihihi123hk    時間: 2013-3-9 14:23



所以

一定要 apple care

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作者: s    時間: 2013-3-9 15:52

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作者: 墨塵音    時間: 2013-3-9 15:55

你唔明係因為你數學唔合格囉, 咁簡單

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作者: s    時間: 2013-3-9 15:58

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作者: beacher    時間: 2013-3-9 18:10


要輕既, 我會買 Vaio Z/S /.\
當然, 如果唔係 mac os 有 imovie 同 Final cut pro 既, 我應該唔會諗佢/.\

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作者: s    時間: 2013-3-9 18:50

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作者: beacher    時間: 2013-3-9 18:52



retina 13 冇 vga /4core/16GB ram/.\
如果唔係真係多多錢都俾

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作者: s    時間: 2013-3-9 18:54

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作者: beacher    時間: 2013-3-9 19:43



HD4000 優化都冇用- -
冇 gpu acceleration, preview 真係慢到好陰公

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作者: s    時間: 2013-3-9 20:14

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作者: beacher    時間: 2013-3-9 20:29



http://www.barefeats.com/imac12p1.html
see this....
mac mini(hd4000) 1個 effect 都已經同人差成2倍幾時間...

我最近發現  vaio s 最新果部,13" 日本 customize, 13.3"(1600x900), i7-3632QM,  12GB RAM 256GB SSD 640M LE 1.6KG  都只係 14K /.\

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作者: jouathen    時間: 2013-3-9 22:16

個時就係因為air 仲唔係FULL HD
最後買左zenbook

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作者: woodlcw    時間: 2013-3-9 23:27

簡單講, iMac 1皮玩唔到SSD
PC 1皮玩SSD有突

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作者: neofung    時間: 2013-3-10 00:45

本帖最後由 neofung 於 2013-3-10 00:52 編輯

回復 35# Kundera
唔記得左答。。。
mac display係咪代代都咁consistant唔知，因為無試過晒咁多款。
不過去到要簽合同既color proof，應該唔會咁簡單啦。
samsung, lg, dell用黎做color reference，唔好玩啦

至於10bit display，暫時的確無乜用。。。
另一個事實，無一部mac mon可以出得晒256級grayscale。
就算eizo，都要cg先出得晒，其他都有banding。

唔係話mac mon唔好，或唔夠好，只不過一定唔會係最好咁姐。

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作者: TOMMY6041    時間: 2013-3-10 01:09

ICP 最高我就話係MACBOOKPRO 喇,個MON 都幾K野

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作者: Kundera    時間: 2013-3-10 02:50




Sadly in reality, Dell monitor is the most common in studios of windows environment
Eizo is a bit of luxury only affordable by few dream-like companies, hospitals or university whereas fund is not that concerned
For those who really know their job will rely on RGB/ CMYK values, graphs, pantone sheets or test prints instead of a monitor. The monitor is for reference only no matter how good it is

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作者: neofung    時間: 2013-3-10 04:53

回復 57# Kundera
事實上，我都係用緊老年philips mon執相，唔會比dell好
聽講印刷行業，就算真係有部eizo cg定乜擺出黎，都係用黎畀客睇，唔係要黎用。。。。

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作者: bb629973    時間: 2013-3-10 12:46

用MAC MINI LOL

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作者: 武非凡    時間: 2013-3-10 13:03

貴係因為用唔盡, 又或者唔使用咁勁

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作者: nakamura    時間: 2013-3-10 13:20



apple 不是萬能; 我自己用Dell mon 執相,其實都見得人
奈何好多人中左S.Jxb的魔掌,以為mac就高人一等
個樣高人一等是冇用,最重要睇你有冇料去用部腦者

要買MAC, 一定是MAC Pro/MBP, imac 只是細路仔的高級玩具姐

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作者: hihihi123hk    時間: 2013-3-10 13:44



係？

無 research 過，  MACBOOK AIR 既可視角好高，我以為係 IPS 黎

但係淨係 個可視角 macbook air 已經 屈左ACER，

講真，你開親電腦都對住個 MON ， ACER 果部 S5 個可視角低到  部機斜少少 就

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作者: hihihi123hk    時間: 2013-3-10 13:46




    MAC PRO 真係貴到

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作者: iGamers.org    時間: 2013-3-10 22:07



High end Workstations are always expensive--that include PC ones such as HPs and Dells

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作者: jackylo9319    時間: 2013-3-11 00:08


要買MAC, 一定是MAC Pro/MBP, imac 只是細路仔的高級玩具姐

何出此言

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作者: KoBe@Lakers    時間: 2013-3-11 02:06



點解用iMac？ 就係為左佔用地方少，而且又可以唔洗用咁多線，好多大型Studio 同 Office 都用iMac 做主力。

細路仔玩具未免太過以偏概全吧？！下下直上Mac Pro 真係不必要

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作者: neofung    時間: 2013-3-11 03:44

imac一d都唔弱，只係無得upgrade咁姐，
但依家打爆ram都有32g，cpu亦夠快，
同desktop比，對90%以上用家，只係加唔到hd，
thunderbolt drive平左，fw800 hd依家又平左超多，
仲有usb或lan/cloud drive可以做external。

如果無對glossy mon或nvidia gpu不滿，imac絕對抵用。

當然，抵唔抵，每個人理解亦有好大分別 XD
淨係一個iphoto，其他platform已經無可能有替代品
lightroom執相/管理相方便過aperture。
但做相簿工能真係算把啦，更加唔好提其他做slide show或睇相功能。
lightroom畀大人做d細路仔野，
iphoto任何人都可以做到好精美既相簿或slide show，
aperture有比較grand相簿template。

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作者: neofung    時間: 2013-3-11 03:47


macpro唔貴啦，不過無hp workstation咁勁就是了，淨係數ram已經輸晒。。。

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作者: netfestv3v    時間: 2013-3-11 09:17

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作者: netfestv3v    時間: 2013-3-11 09:23

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作者: plc1222    時間: 2013-3-11 12:30




今年個mon防反光超勁

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作者: plc1222    時間: 2013-3-11 12:32



將imac同砌機比真係on88生88
係比應該係同hp dell ibm 既 workstation比...

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作者: jiezai58    時間: 2013-3-11 22:30

回復 61# nakamura

imac 係細佬仔高級玩具？
你知唔知有好多公司都有用imac

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作者: paranoidfai    時間: 2013-3-12 10:03

其實Mac....核心係外觀設計同mac osx.....我由PowerPC年代用到家下，剩係唔驚中毒，我已經好滿足，仲有Apple care底下真係好好，之前Macbook自己唔小心倒左杯水落keyboard, 打去Apple, 即可免費換底板比我，當然，要等十日八日，因為係新加波寄泥～
但事實上，PC用同等價錢就真係買到更好嘅Spec, 所以好睇用途，執相，設計....用imac我又唔覺有咩問題，個mon反光....室內真係唔覺～相反imac個mon原廠已經算有唔錯色準～
不過有野野就真係離x譜，就係仲用5400轉harddisk...
仲有最緊要一樣，就係就算PC組一台$20,000頂級PC, 如果要見客，都係買台Mac啦!!!!!
最後認同之前有個ching講，要比都用台機比啦，做咩要用自己組裝機～ 所以呢個Post都有點無聊～ 講完～多謝

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作者: nakamura    時間: 2013-3-12 11:36


公司落order 買機嗰個係咪你先......話imac好潮,但點解佢仲要未出touch mon先(info desk 用touch mon好過用mouse)
人地公司洗錢,買乜買乜, 分分鐘是睇同supplier的關係而不是買真正需要的物品(睇下話事人個腦想乜)
簡約同維修方便是兩回事,
試下你得一部imac, 如果塊MB+on board display 瓜左, axxle care話要等14天先有MB+on board display 換的話,到時又有人趁機投訴(話因維修進度慢而導致無法工作)

imac 的die hard fans我都費事講,牛皮燈籠,永遠點唔着;
有時得個樣是冇用,人冇料就是冇料,就算比你全身水果產品show-off 比人睇,你都唔會立即變專家

我不反對用MAC, 唯獨是其可靠性不可以差過同級PC

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作者: plc1222    時間: 2013-3-12 12:20



認同你呢幾句 哈

"有時得個樣是冇用,人冇料就是冇料,你都唔會立即變專家"


係n兄眼中imac就係潮物, 係showoff之物, 係info desk, 要有touch screen

係其他人眼中imac係用黎搵食 外型簡結功能可靠




邊個先係外貌協會

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作者: hkcs007    時間: 2013-3-12 12:36

各取所需姐

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作者: 百式mkII    時間: 2013-3-16 09:02

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作者: turth    時間: 2013-3-16 10:13

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作者: netfestv3v    時間: 2013-3-16 11:38

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作者: bereavement    時間: 2013-3-16 17:31




    你係咪痴線的? 唔認同apple product design就 = 毒男?
覺得 Asus transformer 靚過MBA = 毒不可奈?


就係有你呢D咁既人既心態先會有人覺得D所謂designer人品有問題.
人人都有自己選擇權. 人地唔鐘意D咩就標籤人地毒男? 索野hi 上左腦?



本人乃Mac Pro,iPad, Retina MBP用家, 作為蘋果用家都睇唔過眼呢D行為.

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作者: nickychan    時間: 2013-3-16 18:32




    同意 仲有 有時唔好以偏概全 人人鐘意既野唔一樣
利申： 轉左用MAC BOOK PRO 年幾

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作者: qxwzevrc    時間: 2013-3-16 21:15

見仁見智,唔多人用得著

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作者: alisontcf    時間: 2013-3-17 10:24

Design 既野咁主觀, 嘈來都係無乜意思呢~!

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作者: ettommy123    時間: 2013-3-18 21:26

Windows文書機 平過iMac 好加上iMac好難上手!

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作者: diff    時間: 2013-3-19 12:43



難唔難上手 , 睇你有冇心去學
萬事起頭難

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作者: takkie    時間: 2013-3-19 15:14



下Imac 吾難上手wo

我今年先第一次用osx，用左三四個鐘就上手

比起win7 方便好多

加賣塊Tp 好鬼好用，只要習慣一下d指令，操作方法,上網仲方便過用ipad

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作者: netfestv3v    時間: 2013-3-19 20:03

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作者: ettommy123    時間: 2013-3-19 20:09

回復 88# netfestv3v

如果你咁中意針我的話 你慢慢針啦
我只不過入黎討論下都唔得?

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作者: netfestv3v    時間: 2013-3-19 20:10

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作者: ettommy123    時間: 2013-3-19 20:12

回復 87# takkie

我用左成日先上手-.-

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作者: 372366    時間: 2013-3-19 20:25

apple 快d出下新野等大家可以轉下話題啦, 呢個 post 竟然可以傾 10 頁!

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作者: bereavement    時間: 2013-3-20 06:02

本帖最後由 bereavement 於 2013-3-20 06:03 編輯



    你呢句我睇完真係大笑左出黎

依閣下邏緝. 閣下本身散發出黎既(數字）味。我相信呢個post 都感受到

聞說遠望東洋, 該國某部份女子認為人之排泄物為上品食療..  依閣下平常品評事物方法.
恐怕也曾品嘗過一番罷? 可不跟大家分享一下過中經驗讓大家增廣見聞?

不過 講真。 做branding/marketing 既人真係要好好多謝你呢類朋友
唔係有你呢類這麼膚淺沒有自我判斷能力既朋友.

佢地真係隨時無飯開!!!


甚至香港大小市民都應該向閣下致敬.
如果唔係閣下係呢個post  入面將人們思想同審美自由宰殺得淋瀰盡致.
大眾又如何得知自由可貴呢?
閣下真難能可貴。用心良苦呀， 請受小弟一拜


為表誠意，現發圖一枚。以表示小弟真的是蘋果用家，用蘋果僅有非常蔽腳的中文輸入法花15 分鍾來回post 以表達小弟對閣下的敬意!!!!

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作者: netfestv3v    時間: 2013-3-20 08:40

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作者: wongja    時間: 2013-3-20 11:55

本帖最後由 wongja 於 2013-3-20 12:00 編輯

[OT] epc 幾時有d 咁既 member
迫人鐘意 apple 都有既？

利申: 2009 C2D Mac Mini -> 2010 iMac 27" -> Late 2012 Mac Mini 用家

加公司 iMac 用家 (當然是舊版了!)



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作者: bereavement    時間: 2013-3-20 12:53

本帖最後由 bereavement 於 2013-3-20 13:12 編輯



    Well, I wouldn't want to spend too much time to explain logic and perspective to a mentally incapable person at the first place.

No disrespect and no hard feeling as inborn disability not by choice.


But as you trying to be blunt to ALL people who doesn't agree with your so-called "Art perspective"
I wouldn't mind to address few issues behind your logic from what you've written/spoken so far.


1st - Art not necessarily evolve like technology does.
a 10 years old computer component will easily turn to electrical waste as technology always thrive for speed and form factor and energy efficiency
In this three categories will improve (in a concrete and objective way) overtime as manufacturing sophistication advances. There is no argument about it.
Because it doesn't involve perspective. it's a scientifict fact.

Art&Design is another story, Art&Design is subjective there are a lot of room to argue about it and in theory Art&Design doesn't evolve , at least not in a way that everyone would agrees.
People would argue there still room to evolve such as erognomic or material rigidity and whatnot. But this is in the field of product design or industrial design. Whatever you want to name it. But doesn't change a fact that it lean on engineering and technology more than traditional Art&Design(as you refer some female might judge two extreme similar products as one better and one inferior solely on what brand tag is on; this called branding strategy anyways)

So Now we have
- Technology and Engineering
- Product Design or Industrial Design (as in sub category of Technology and Engineering)
- Art&Design (might even be fine art)
- Marketing and Branding identity


Now your problem or shallow point is
You aren't judging how a computer perform, how a computer ergonmic design.

Which leave us four options,
- You judge computer by Art&Design
- You judge computer by how other people think of it (as in branding)
- You judge computer by both of above reasons
- You don't even know what the hell you are talking about.

I kinda lean on you are the fourth option(but it's just me, still no disrespect as you don't choose to have difficulties on lack of self preservation intelligence  )


Though I have been very throughout considering your ignorance was due to your disability, unfortunately.

But I still think it's not advisable to let people like you keep label other people inferior to you just because they don't agree with you. This just fascist.
Moreover, I don't really see other people on here bash or label you inferior just because you love Apple for no obvious reason. The reason is the other members on here are more or less capable to think individually. They understand what is personal preference and respect that(which you don't)


Anyways, the Jap girl reference have nothing to do with mainstream or not.
Since you are not intelligent enough to comprehend , wouldn't mind to elaborate a little bit more to you.

-It's about how you care people think, while how an individual think is the most important.
Especially you were talking about art(well now we know you didn't even have the slightest clue of what you were talking about, so now it's understandable)


Here give you one more example, as I know these are all very difficult for you to understand.

Let's say I think the male person on your avatar looks like a piece of dog crap and the female one look like someone I bummed into in Portland st. Who stopped me and tell me"Hey Mr. It's only $300" (even though I don't know what the heck she referring to.)

Do you have to agree with me ? No.

So why we should agree with a random chick's piece of crap thought?



I actually don't see any people here trying to express how beautiful is a Origin, DIY or whatever PC.

I only see you sir dead trying to convince/insult people who doesn't agree Apple make the best computer in the entire solar system.


You can love apple as much as you want, you can even sleep over Job's grave(through this might be illegal but I don't think this will ever stop you. Go forest go!)

But you can't insult people who doesn't want to go sleep six feet under with a bag of bones and rotten flesh with you.



Ok, I am out. I have faith in you to live out a meaningful and happy life. Hong Kong is a good place.
Many free shelter, I am sure you can make a friend or two there without problem.
Life aren't easy, especially with your disability but Hey! a wise guy used to say"The less you understand; The happier life you lead to." So, go on and live a bright live bro!

Respect! Peace!

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作者: monsterz    時間: 2013-3-20 14:15




    搞事嘅人無視即可, 駛唔駛打篇長文數臭佢...

    你vocab算多, 但gramma

    我都覺得奇怪, apple區D人咁中意打英文, 唔通你地覺得用英文高尚D? 定返工冇中文打

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作者: bereavement    時間: 2013-3-20 14:21

本帖最後由 bereavement 於 2013-3-20 14:24 編輯



    nono as I stated at previous post I can't find a good Chinese input method in OSX, I type Chinese VERY slow in OSX. 50 words took me 15 mins +, doesn't want to spend too much of my resource on a people doesn't worth of it.

That's why I type English in this reply, you can see my other posts in HKEPC. They were ALL Chinese posts.

I am a patriot (not to the government though and I am not ashamed to be Chinese nor use Chinese. I rare speak English as well. Unless the people I am talking to a person who doesn't understand Chinese.


So no, Not feeling good about English at all. Sorry I know my gramma suck balls.
But we are on the Internet XD, so please forgive me. It never meant to be a textbook reference English

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作者: pooh24680    時間: 2013-3-20 14:36

如果 唔熟 倉頡/簡易 輸入法, 打中文其實係 幾痛苦o既一定事

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作者: monsterz    時間: 2013-3-20 14:41

回復 98# bereavement

    typing English a lot in apple section might be my wrong perception

    I don't mean to challenge you but I do suggest Chings pay more attention to gramma

    爱国不爱党