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標題: 終於等到喇 PC GAME 界的一道清泉 真正的WOW KILLER [打印本頁]

作者: helen_frankie    時間: 2011-1-20 02:17     標題: 終於等到喇 PC GAME 界的一道清泉 真正的WOW KILLER

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作者: lihoma    時間: 2011-1-20 02:29

可能要升級先得
作者: kazenorin    時間: 2011-1-20 09:25

回復 1# helen_frankie


    可唔可以簡單咁講下...
呢隻 game 點解咁吸引, 可以成為 WOW Killer 咁勁

就咁睇都只係 graphics 比較出色
作者: helen_frankie    時間: 2011-1-20 09:40

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作者: rcbananahk    時間: 2011-1-20 09:44

wow 個system 架構真係比人kill 到?

我intel onboard 都玩到wow wor..
作者: gameboy115    時間: 2011-1-20 10:05

根據2nd link講,地圖隨機內有"異樣",要玩家去討伐,而每一次都有唔同體驗,同時其他玩家可隨機加入,如玩家唔理呢個"異樣",會慢慢變成foothold(一個邪惡據點),而且會不停擴大,向NPC城鎮進迫,並影響玩家做quest

都ok attractive ,不過MMO,仲要看其他職係/武器等
作者: helen_frankie    時間: 2011-1-20 13:31

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作者: helen_frankie    時間: 2011-1-20 13:51

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作者: sunlite    時間: 2011-1-20 14:35

So you are doing a quest and fighting a boss. An extra boss and foes coming from the rift and kill you, that's fun!
作者: vood2    時間: 2011-1-20 18:06

希望佢唔好好似戰鎚咁比D代理商玩死左!
老實講玩呢類型GAME最重要係網路要順暢伺服要強勁
亞洲地區人士玩得順暢好似戰鎚咁比D台灣代理玩死左
如果只係北得美地區玩咁會冇乜亞洲地區人士去玩喎
點解WOW可以玩咁耐都係代理做得比較好D同時管理制度明確
WOW個故事比較有D文路同追看性
WOW個中文版同美版一樣所以大陸同台灣香港先有咁多人同佢養主個代理咁多年咁解

希望呢隻真係可以WOW KELLER啦哈
作者: cheong819    時間: 2011-1-20 20:20

貴貴哋
作者: zerogambit@@@@    時間: 2011-1-20 20:58

咁易被KILL, 點叫暴雪
作者: iwbs    時間: 2011-1-20 21:20

i think the only possible wow killer this year, is SWTOR, nothing else
作者: helen_frankie    時間: 2011-1-20 22:30

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作者: helen_frankie    時間: 2011-1-20 22:47

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作者: helen_frankie    時間: 2011-1-21 01:11

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作者: insanity    時間: 2011-1-21 01:18

我覺得warhammer 係比EA 玩死…有一定年資既玩家應該知EA係間商業味勁重既公司,隻game收得受歡迎,就一 ...
helen_frankie 發表於 2011-1-20 22:47


無辦法..
O的廠唔重視亞洲市場..亞洲人自然唔會知道呢O的GAME 存在..
不過我都好唔鍾意EA..佢真係好似你咁講
乜好GAME都要整到個爛...搾到佢盡
作者: sillgatearthas    時間: 2011-1-21 02:11

無辦法..
O的廠唔重視亞洲市場..亞洲人自然唔會知道呢O的GAME 存在..
不過我都好唔鍾意EA..佢真係好似你 ...
insanity 發表於 2011-1-21 01:18



    +1 i want my dungeon keeper and populous back!!
作者: [N.H.K]anime    時間: 2011-1-21 08:30

wow 個system 架構真係比人kill 到?

我intel onboard 都玩到wow wor..
rcbananahk 發表於 2011-1-20 09:44



    科技/遊戲是用來進步既..冇一款遊戲唔會俾其他追到..尤其DX不斷上升上引擎需要更新/更加係重寫之類
WOW有遊戲超越係好事...代表遊戲業界又再進步...當然暴雪個D3唔知幾時出.....
作者: rcbananahk    時間: 2011-1-21 09:03

Blizzard 最出色係個公會system....而唔係科技

display 靚係沒用  只會令更加小人玩到
作者: [N.H.K]anime    時間: 2011-1-21 09:17

Blizzard 最出色係個公會system....而唔係科技

display 靚係沒用  只會令更加小人玩到 ...
rcbananahk 發表於 2011-1-21 09:03



    display 靚 = 比較低階既人冇得玩..所以會少人..人少左..高階機既人自然會流失
最後只得番有熱情既玩家...
所以..平衡係好重要...畫汁不代表一切..遊戲系統垃圾/好快就爆lv爆裝果d..無法平衡既好快就會玩完...
作者: asp123    時間: 2011-1-21 10:04

同意遊戲系統係最重要.
作者: helen_frankie    時間: 2011-1-21 13:47

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作者: kazenorin    時間: 2011-1-21 21:35

rift 個 system 似乎唔錯,
不過 pvp 就咁睇段片就很一般
或說... 無聊
作者: helen_frankie    時間: 2011-1-21 22:37

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作者: blindfaith    時間: 2011-1-22 17:55

i think the only possible wow killer this year, is SWTOR, nothing else
iwbs 發表於 2011-1-20 21:20



    im also waitting X_X saids release on dec.... but now delay ..... dont know when will release
作者: blindfaith    時間: 2011-1-22 17:56

我覺得warhammer 係比EA 玩死…有一定年資既玩家應該知EA係間商業味勁重既公司,隻game收得受歡迎,就一 ...
helen_frankie 發表於 2011-1-20 22:47

the CEO in mythic left so fast =.=... damn marc jacob....

i bet if DAOC have chinese version.. will have more player to play .......
X_X US server really killing us.....(need set alarm 7am on sunday just to play the damn raid or RVR zerg)
作者: phoenix    時間: 2011-1-22 20:10

btw 我都係覺得wow 成功之道係故事上同個系統
暫時真係無一隻game有佢咁大個故事bg
killer 真係可能要暴雪自己kill...
作者: walleinad    時間: 2011-1-22 20:28

I pre-ordered this game already after played the last beta event. The professional system like FFXIV but you can use 3 jobs at the same time. So far so good.
作者: cheukhim    時間: 2011-1-23 00:32

VIP beta key 可以俾25個人用 join 佢 d beta event:
XZKZ-QGMZ-2E7R-6EQE-PGNW

To Apply the VIP Code:

   1. Go to https://account.RIFTgame.com to login or create a new account.
   2. Click "Apply Code" on the left-hand navigation bar and enter your VIP key.
   3. You're done! You will automatically be invited into the remaining beta events.
作者: helen_frankie    時間: 2011-1-23 00:51

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作者: kazenorin    時間: 2011-1-23 03:49

回復 31# helen_frankie

香港  online game 主要都係日韓為主,
年齡層亦比較低
作者: bonson    時間: 2011-1-23 11:23

本帖最後由 bonson 於 2011-1-23 11:27 編輯

最重要係class 同gear既balance, 一個over power 就可以玩完

另外gear 既數量都係好重要, 因為而家D online game 9成都係5, 10 , 15 就一set gear, 個個都係著個套, 好似餅印禁, 完全冇晒gear 既自由度
作者: walleinad    時間: 2011-1-23 12:16

如果香港多啲你e d 識貨之人就好啦,咁啲外國online game 就可以普及啲,香港啲玩家亦吾洗咁
膚淺
  你訂 ...
helen_frankie 發表於 2011-1-23 00:51


I've ordered collector edition coz I want the mount and the extra 24 bag slots... hahaha
I think I will play in PVE server coz I like to travel around and try some new stuff in game.
我多數玩外國mmorpg la (UO, EQ, EQ2, DAoC... WoW, Vanguard, Warhammer, FFXIV.. 等等). 唔係話乜野, 鬼佬亦有cheap精, 但係佢地主要係enjoy個game, 周圍冒險, 而唔係只係沖level, camp items. 相對地亦比較有禮貌.
If u want to play in PVE, we may explore the world together. Most likely, I may play two char. One is cleric, one is mage (nec/lock). Well, I only tried these two classes in beta. So, I don't know about melee class
作者: insanity    時間: 2011-1-23 14:37

科技/遊戲是用來進步既..冇一款遊戲唔會俾其他追到..尤其DX不斷上升上引擎需要更新/更加係重寫之類
...
[N.H.K]anime 發表於 2011-1-21 08:30


D3 唔係MMO,BLIZZARD 下一代MMO 係TITAN..但而家只係得個名..乜內容都無公布
WOW ENGINE太舊了,以佢O既畫質..做到咁O既FPS好似太低
同埋我覺得WOW 優化唔太好,好多時佢GPU同CPU都無用盡..可能用緊50%左右..但你個畫面就係窒窒地..
作者: zerogambit@@@@    時間: 2011-1-23 18:15

D3 唔係MMO,BLIZZARD 下一代MMO 係TITAN..但而家只係得個名..乜內容都無公布
WOW ENGINE太舊了,以佢O既 ...
insanity 發表於 2011-1-23 14:37


人多既時候, 用配置唔高既電腦去推, 實LAG WOR.
作者: insanity    時間: 2011-1-23 18:39

人多既時候, 用配置唔高既電腦去推, 實LAG WOR.
zerogambit@@@@ 發表於 2011-1-23 18:15

唔關事,我覺得係佢個ENGINE 問題
你講O既LAG 係NETWORK O既LAG 定係點先?
NETWORK 慢唔會影響FPS架

而且..根本唔關電腦配置高唔高問題
而係佢唔知點解用唔盡..明明GPU同CPU都好得閒
但佢都只係得2X-3X FPS..窒窒地
作者: helen_frankie    時間: 2011-1-24 00:54

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作者: kazenorin    時間: 2011-1-24 01:25

回復 37# insanity


    >NETWORK 慢唔會影響FPS架

唔一定,
見過某日韓 online game network lag 時,
系統資源反而消耗更高

隻 game 既 software 寫得唔夠好
作者: ccrackerjack    時間: 2011-1-24 16:08

早兩日見到而個 post 之後走左去申請 a/c, 今日收到 email 話 admitted 我參加聽日開始既 beta

過兩日話比大家知好冇玩呀下~
作者: ococ    時間: 2011-1-24 20:42

本帖最後由 ococ 於 2011-1-24 21:43 編輯

我都中左
DOWNLOAD緊





希望有玩UO同EQ個FEEL
作者: wongja    時間: 2011-1-25 10:21

Is it another quest driving MMO like WOW?
Recently playing DCUO and its similar to WOW , keep questing , instances and wanted villains.

Kind of boring as it doesn't have much to do.

Only if Rift is as good as WOW, it's already a very good MMO.
作者: keaan91    時間: 2011-1-25 11:12

where can i join the founder plan?
作者: helen_frankie    時間: 2011-1-25 12:40

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作者: blindfaith    時間: 2011-1-25 12:52

I pre-ordered this game already after played the last beta event. The professional system like FFXIV ...
walleinad 發表於 2011-1-22 20:28

FFXIV sucks... =.= i wanna know how many month they free??
i bought the game and played less than a week =.=
作者: cough    時間: 2011-1-25 13:19

Yes,,, sadly there's so few hk people know these kind of game existed …
  And the games class sys ...
helen_frankie 發表於 2011-1-21 01:11


My impression of beta 4 of Rift does in fact feels like Warhammer IMO. The PvP aspect feels like Warhammer.

Soul tree does look interesting, but it will be close to impossible to balance given the number of combination. Got myself in beta 5 and hopefully will prove it isn't another Warhammer...
作者: cough    時間: 2011-1-25 13:27

FFXIV sucks... =.= i wanna know how many month they free??
i bought the game and played less than a ...
blindfaith 發表於 2011-1-25 12:52



    Now that they brought it a new executive director and reshuffle some staff, I wonder how long it would take to save this sinking ship (my guess would be 6 months).

I have been following closely and absolutely jazzed for FFXIV, that is, until I played around OP....it's just so wrong on so many levels...
It is such a sad day when you think SE, who proves us with the success of FFXI, can release such a horrendous game under the name FFXIV.
作者: helen_frankie    時間: 2011-1-25 13:50

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作者: wongja    時間: 2011-1-25 17:15

回復  wongja

Every online game is raiding , instance , pvp match , questing ,crafting架啦
Play th ...
helen_frankie 發表於 2011-1-25 12:42



    Will try, and may probably join because i am hungry of mmo
作者: ironbluevision    時間: 2011-1-25 17:21

played the beta already...not bad, better than Aion and Warhammer..  But not captivating enough to make me quit WoW.  

Talent trees need more work - the "different" trees are just same talents with different names.

It's not a finished product by all means - I think they should really delay the launch and put more thought into it.
作者: helen_frankie    時間: 2011-1-25 17:35

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作者: tyee    時間: 2011-1-25 17:49

而家仲有冇beta玩?
作者: walleinad    時間: 2011-1-25 18:57

don't know why so many people using wow to compare with other mmorpg. I quited wow after lvl cap. the game is so boring... raid, camp, quest... The best mmorpg in my opinion is UO and EQ. wow is too easy to play.
作者: leejkf    時間: 2011-1-25 19:25

what is the PC requirement?
Do the network connection stable?
作者: uwantwant    時間: 2011-1-25 20:01

注定失敗既先叫咩咩killer
作者: helen_frankie    時間: 2011-1-25 21:40

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作者: keaan91    時間: 2011-1-26 00:13

tonight 2am will start another beta la~~ waiting for it!!
作者: helen_frankie    時間: 2011-1-26 00:26

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作者: ccrackerjack    時間: 2011-1-26 10:03

I slept early yesterday and wake up at 6 this morning in order to try the game before I went to work.

It feels very much like warhammer at first glance, I'm not surprised/impressed at all.  The control and UI are not much different from wow, also the quests, skills/spells are quite similar from other mmos.  

Only played for an hour so far, I will spend more time into it tonight.
作者: Efsf    時間: 2011-1-26 11:19

冇偈…今時今日d 玩家好膚淺…中意玩即興,又冇要求(包括系統+畫面上既進化)
eq1 好特別…啲回憶真係跟 ...
helen_frankie 發表於 2011-1-25 21:40


Yup, UO and EQ really the best MMO i ever played, both are so reality to our real world, we trading time and time for such pleasure memories, and we actually learned so much things inside the game!

Sad but true, nowadays, all mmorpgs just nothing more than a game, busniess : (
作者: walleinad    時間: 2011-1-26 18:58

Yup, UO and EQ really the best MMO i ever played, both are so reality to our real world, we tradin ...
Efsf 發表於 2011-1-26 11:19


Agree!! In the old day, we need to loot back the corpse when died or u will lose all items, need to drink/eat when hungry or u can't move. We need to play very careful. But nowadays, death is nothing. just lost some exp. It results to create lot of low-skill players...
作者: walleinad    時間: 2011-1-26 18:59

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the game is so great ! so have feel ! i preorder 3 collector's edition already ,,, hope w ...
helen_frankie 發表於 2011-1-26 03:35


乜師兄要食咁多藥黎打機呀?
作者: superman9394    時間: 2011-1-26 19:34

今年有3隻泡菜大作 TERA, Arche Age 同 Blade & Soul 講內容豐富o既話呢方面應該都係唔及鬼佬o既 MMO, 不過佢地都加入左一D傳統 MMORPG 冇o既新元素, 例如 非鎖定目標攻擊模式, 海戰系統, 物理系統 等等

TERA(本月25號正式在韓國營運)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C2N-naGRlhs

Arche Age(封測中)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=if3JGW9eMb8&feature=channel

Blade & Soul(開發中)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=crHjaGnY8vg&feature=related
作者: homing53    時間: 2011-1-26 21:04

打緊喇
作者: walleinad    時間: 2011-1-27 00:39

Just tried a nightblade + ranger and deleted... seems melee class is not my cup of tea
Created an ele and will try it tomorrow.
作者: helen_frankie    時間: 2011-1-27 01:27

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作者: kazenorin    時間: 2011-1-27 10:45

補品泥架啫-_-...蜂皇槳,藍莓素,冬蟲夏草果啲
helen_frankie 發表於 2011-1-27 09:40



唔睇你果張相, 我以為你講緊 game 內既補品 -.-
作者: ccrackerjack    時間: 2011-1-27 12:08

經過尋日玩多 4 個鐘既感想:

世界觀:
與 Warhammer 非常相近, 個 feel 八成似, 都係四圍炮火連天, 城市建築同一般物品都熟口熟面.

操控:
操控動畫係 EQ2 個款, 感覺上冇 wow/warhammer 咁流暢, 但整體尚算良好.

介面:
與 wow/warhammer 等無異, 玩開既立即上手.

戰鬥:
與 wow/warhammer 等無異, 玩開既立即上手.

職業:
可以同時選擇三個相同類別既職業.  類別分為戰士, 盜賊, 魔法師 同埋 僧侶.  每個類別有大約 8 個職業, 例如你選擇左盜賊, 你可以再選擇 assassin + ranger + bladedancer, 但唔可以選擇其他類別既職業啦.
聽落好似好大彈性, 其實不然.  因為每個職業既技能設定都有固定模式兼好保守, 例如 lvl 2 所有人都係攻擊技, lvl 4 又所有人係 buff 等等.  互相補助係有既, 例如職業 A 有 +5% melee dmg, 職業 B 又有再 +5%, 咁加埋就 +10% 啦.  
但會有好多唔同類但同功能既技能, 所以比你選3個, 甚至5個, 都唔會對平衡構成影響.

任務:
同 wow/warhammer 無異, 一樣係唔洗用腦既, 只要 accept > 睇細地圖標示 > 殺殺殺搞掂

RIFT:
所謂既 rift 係同 warhammer 既 public quest 一模一樣.  重覆: 一模一樣.  係向固定地點, 固定間隔出現既.

工藝:
試左 skinning, 未試得好深入, 暫時感覺同 wow/warhammer 等無分別.  甚至 crafting 用既 item 既 icon 都熟口熟面.

畫面:
同 warhammer / age of canon 差唔多級數, 建築物既結構簡單, 最多同 wow 差唔多, 遠不如 EQ1/2 既結構.
未有機會打地城.

網絡:
patch 好慢...尋晚 d/l 個 patch 得 2x-3x k/s (netvigator 8M ~_~), game 入面良好.

玩家:
beta 既人口唔能夠代表 live, 不過 so far 係同 wow 差唔多.  大家都係衝下 lvl, 搶下任務物品, 久唔久有人討論下 rift <> wow 等等.
作者: ccrackerjack    時間: 2011-1-27 12:15

總結:

似乎都只係另一隻集各家大成既作品, RIFT 同 職業系統 只係 gimmick, 並冇重大突破同驚喜.

如果你玩 wow 同 warhammer 等會悶, 玩 Rift 都好快會.
作者: gameboy115    時間: 2011-1-27 13:36

今年有3隻泡菜大作 TERA, Arche Age 同 Blade & Soul 講內容豐富o既話呢方面應該都係唔及鬼佬o既 MMO, 不過 ...
superman9394 發表於 2011-1-26 19:34


TERA & BLADE & SOUL D畫質都好得,不過KOR D MMO,內容好麻麻
作者: Efsf    時間: 2011-1-27 14:48

TERA & BLADE & SOUL D畫質都好得,不過KOR D MMO,內容好麻麻
gameboy115 發表於 2011-1-27 13:36


衝 Level > 無盡 PvE > 完

Eyes Candys 向 : /
作者: kyrt    時間: 2011-1-27 14:58

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作者: gameboy115    時間: 2011-1-27 16:57

衝 Level > 無盡 PvE > 完

Eyes Candys 向 : /
Efsf 發表於 2011-1-27 14:48



幾時先有一隻WOW+KOR ART MMO GAME
作者: Efsf    時間: 2011-1-27 17:34

幾時先有一隻WOW+KOR ART MMO GAME
gameboy115 發表於 2011-1-27 16:57



我諗...好難有呢一日, haha
作者: walleinad    時間: 2011-1-27 18:20

i just made a mage, warlock+necromancer now :D
powerful DoT!
helen_frankie 發表於 2011-1-27 01:27


Yes! I have nec/lock coz i want a better pet ;)
作者: wongian1    時間: 2011-1-27 19:43

有幾多人戒左online game............

+1
kyrt 發表於 2011-1-27 14:58


+2....

I played DAOC few years ago...it was a great game at time but really too addictive...
作者: helen_frankie    時間: 2011-1-27 22:45

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作者: ccrackerjack    時間: 2011-1-28 09:31

集各家大成 no good ?

wow is boring but warhammer is much better wo... -_- warhammer is better in  ...
helen_frankie 發表於 2011-1-27 22:45



   
I agree both wow and warhammer are good games.

Really enjoyed the pvp of warhammer and its very exciting rvr.


其實集各家大成係完全冇問題既, 只係樣樣野都熟口熟面, 未深入玩已經有種曾經試過既感覺, 少左份新鮮感同刺激囉.
作者: pop3    時間: 2011-1-28 11:17

warhammer 根本就係自己比EA 整死...
作者: Efsf    時間: 2011-1-28 11:21

試左 Beta, d 動作可以整靚 d...雖然係 eyes candys 野, 但有總好過冇

同行路個動作我覺得有 d 怪同慢~
作者: helen_frankie    時間: 2011-1-28 13:59

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作者: wa0531    時間: 2011-1-28 16:54

剛才入過Game! OK WOR!!!
用Reaver 玩下先~
我用BB100 的, 現在唔Lag亦無LD問題.
以前玩隻Warhammer 英文版... 超Lag+LD 有好多時更加Lag到Timeout Login 唔到...
希望E隻可以玩到啦~
其實係咪係香港玩唔到外國Server遊戲呢? <-- 近年...
已往玩EQ1 EQ2 AO UO DAoC 用56K 都玩到... 現在反而用Boardband 都Lag到玩唔到?
作者: shunw    時間: 2011-1-28 23:19

過美國當然係netvgator 啦.
打機頻寬其實吾系太重要.
作者: Efsf    時間: 2011-1-29 00:57

Not really, download 佢隻 game, 10MB/S by HKBB, in game 一樣好順
作者: ironbluevision    時間: 2011-1-29 11:32

Strangely this thread is making me want to go back to CoH/CoV XD

Also, playing on US servers from HK has rarely been a problem...I usually get about 180-200ms ping in WoW.
作者: Mino    時間: 2011-1-30 18:05

升lv 已經唔會再玩
作者: walleinad    時間: 2011-1-30 18:18

The beta is ended last night. I asked in game about the job order and ppl say nec/lock & lock/nec is different. I have a lock/nec already and last night, i create a nec/lock and can't find any difference. I also tried a VK/champ/rea and it is fun to play! I lvl up to 12 and stick to making plate armor. The armor is really better than the quest item. Next time, I will try try making cloth. I can't find the npc that teaching tailor... anyone know?

By the way, I play both side but I found the bad/dark side is much fun to play! Looks like it is much "open area" than good side.

I agreed that the Rift is similar to PQ in Warhammer; rush in, join Public Group, kill kill kill, then get the loot.. hahaha... there is another public quest I dont know the name: the invasion can kill all the npc in town and we need to kill them all to recover the town. It is pretty fun as well!

I play in wolfsbane server. How about u guys?
作者: helen_frankie    時間: 2011-1-30 19:11

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作者: helen_frankie    時間: 2011-1-30 19:13

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作者: Efsf    時間: 2011-1-30 20:55

打左成晚 warfront, d Ranger/Masksmen 好惡打...
作者: cainester    時間: 2011-2-1 16:20

好似好正...
好耐冇玩過傳統既online RPG..
作者: wcy3    時間: 2011-2-1 18:17

Strangely this thread is making me want to go back to CoH/CoV XD

Also, playing on US servers from H ...
ironbluevision 發表於 2011-1-29 11:32


Really?? i am still playing COV/COH  

Preordered rift CE also, lets hang out when it goes live
作者: ironbluevision    時間: 2011-2-1 19:54

回復 97# wcy3

not planning on getting Rift

only playing CoH:GR because my WoW guild hasn't started raiding new content.

also, not really a fan of Rift's class/talent system - they are more or less just the same talents with different names.  the game had some good things going but if they were going to release it the way it is now, it won't last too long before people started quitting.
作者: helen_frankie    時間: 2011-2-1 23:22

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作者: wa0531    時間: 2011-2-2 01:15

I like the game too althrough I just played for 2hr totally~
Im waiting for its next beta =)





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